Comments on: The conversation society http://eirikso.com/2006/10/30/the-conversation-society/ The personal web site of Eirik Solheim Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:11:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Eirikso http://eirikso.com/2006/10/30/the-conversation-society/comment-page-1/#comment-2239 Eirikso Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:20:40 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2006/10/30/the-conversation-society/#comment-2239 Yes, the communication and the power of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_long_tail" rel="nofollow">the long tail</a>. As long as we have the tools to find that special content that exactly fit our taste and interest we'll also accept lower technical quality. Even if that video of Seth Godin doing a fantastic presentation isn't produced with the quality of "Lost" or "24" I would probably choose to spend my valuable 30 minutes on Seth rather than Agent Bauer... And, the same goes for music. That band's page on MySpace might not look like the polished stuff on MTV, but it is more interesting because of the possibility for direct communication and the fact that you can take part of a community. You might also want to take a look at this: <a href="http://www.eirikso.com/2006/12/04/how-to-market-music-on-the-internet/" rel="nofollow">How to market music on the internet</a> Yes, the communication and the power of the long tail. As long as we have the tools to find that special content that exactly fit our taste and interest we’ll also accept lower technical quality.

Even if that video of Seth Godin doing a fantastic presentation isn’t produced with the quality of “Lost” or “24″ I would probably choose to spend my valuable 30 minutes on Seth rather than Agent Bauer…

And, the same goes for music. That band’s page on MySpace might not look like the polished stuff on MTV, but it is more interesting because of the possibility for direct communication and the fact that you can take part of a community.

You might also want to take a look at this:
How to market music on the internet

]]> By: GHM-327 http://eirikso.com/2006/10/30/the-conversation-society/comment-page-1/#comment-2238 GHM-327 Fri, 15 Dec 2006 05:14:43 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2006/10/30/the-conversation-society/#comment-2238 Perhaps its not the "age of conversation" exactly but the "age of communication" the point isnt just social networking between individuals but "direct communication between individuals and the bands or actors etc. directly! yes i agree that myspace pages arent as interesting to veiw as MTV... but what do we need MTV for when we can talk to any musician we want directly on myspace? that is what it means to live in the age of communication. Perhaps its not the “age of conversation” exactly but the “age of communication”

the point isnt just social networking between individuals but “direct communication between individuals and the bands or actors etc. directly!

yes i agree that myspace pages arent as interesting to veiw as MTV… but what do we need MTV for when we can talk to any musician we want directly on myspace?

that is what it means to live in the age of communication.

]]> By: Eirikso http://eirikso.com/2006/10/30/the-conversation-society/comment-page-1/#comment-2237 Eirikso Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:43:30 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2006/10/30/the-conversation-society/#comment-2237 This comment needs to be <a href="http://www.eirikso.com/2006/11/22/more-on-the-conversation-and-the-content/" rel="nofollow">read</a>. This comment needs to be read.

]]> By: atle b http://eirikso.com/2006/10/30/the-conversation-society/comment-page-1/#comment-2236 atle b Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:05:32 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2006/10/30/the-conversation-society/#comment-2236 Well, you've upped the ante - the Google count now stood at 54 - with three of the top five referring back here. How is that for instant visibility? On to the comments (that got filtered last time around two weeks back): If you change the viewpoint slightly, there is already a term and a discussion - namely "conversational media" clocking over 56 000 hits. I view it partially as a spin-off from "participatory journalism" and other ways of saying user-generated content. Which brings it back to your current topic of content - is it "content" when I say to my co-worker "Gee, it's raining outside. Again."? Does it become content if I post it to a MySpace page? Then how about if I type it in MSN? It is saved, it is visible and there are ads making it a commercial "channel" The main problem I have with YouTube and MySpace is that they take 'traffic' from everyday actions, and make it into "The Next Big Thing": zapping the channels on the tv you can scan the 20 channels twice in five minutes - does that mean you have just had "40 video views"? talking nonsense to a friend to pass time - is that debate and commitment? Like Bruce Springsteen said - 57 channels and nothing on - so why not spend time mindlessly looking for that one great video on YouTube? While posting the best links to your friends MySpace page? Well, you’ve upped the ante – the Google count now stood at 54 – with three of the top five referring back here. How is that for instant visibility?

On to the comments (that got filtered last time around two weeks back):

If you change the viewpoint slightly, there is already a term and a discussion – namely “conversational media” clocking over 56 000 hits. I view it partially as a spin-off from “participatory journalism” and other ways of saying user-generated content.

Which brings it back to your current topic of content – is it “content” when I say to my co-worker “Gee, it’s raining outside. Again.”? Does it become content if I post it to a MySpace page? Then how about if I type it in MSN? It is saved, it is visible and there are ads making it a commercial “channel”

The main problem I have with YouTube and MySpace is that they take ‘traffic’ from everyday actions, and make it into “The Next Big Thing”:

zapping the channels on the tv you can scan the 20 channels twice in five minutes – does that mean you have just had “40 video views”?

talking nonsense to a friend to pass time – is that debate and commitment?

Like Bruce Springsteen said – 57 channels and nothing on – so why not spend time mindlessly looking for that one great video on YouTube? While posting the best links to your friends MySpace page?

]]> By: Eirikso http://eirikso.com/2006/10/30/the-conversation-society/comment-page-1/#comment-2235 Eirikso Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:56:49 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2006/10/30/the-conversation-society/#comment-2235 I must admit that I haven't found anything of any interest inside MySpace. Every single page I have seen is just some insanely bad design with huge amounts of irritating images and puerile comments from people. So, I agree. It sucks. But it's huge! I guess more than 100 million people <em>can</em> be wrong. I must admit that I haven’t found anything of any interest inside MySpace. Every single page I have seen is just some insanely bad design with huge amounts of irritating images and puerile comments from people.

So, I agree. It sucks. But it’s huge! I guess more than 100 million people can be wrong.

]]> By: Raven Riley http://eirikso.com/2006/10/30/the-conversation-society/comment-page-1/#comment-2234 Raven Riley Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:52:27 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2006/10/30/the-conversation-society/#comment-2234 Omg, myspace just sucks so much! Omg, myspace just sucks so much!

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