Comments on: Peer to peer set top box http://eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/ The personal web site of Eirik Solheim Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:11:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Eirikso http://eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/comment-page-1/#comment-2529 Eirikso Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:31:30 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/#comment-2529 Haha. Yes, pretty similar. Haha. Yes, pretty similar.

]]> By: Lasse Elden http://eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/comment-page-1/#comment-2528 Lasse Elden Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:00:09 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/#comment-2528 This site have the same webdesigner as JOOST.COM : http://cnr.com/ This site have the same webdesigner as JOOST.COM :

http://cnr.com/

]]> By: atle http://eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/comment-page-1/#comment-2527 atle Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:52:34 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/#comment-2527 As for HTPC: I for one think the "end game" would be cabinet free solutions - ie. something you can stick in the corner inside whatever sort of storage furniture you have - and then just run a video cable and IR transmitter to the TV (or put another way: if the WinVista extender concept worked for all game consoles, including ps3 and wii - and for all media formats ... then we have a winner) Regarding Joost: it is incredible how much press the "official" branded version begot, especially here in Norway where it has been all but ignored since the people behind it are danes and swedes (much better coverage in Sweden, DI and others - do a comparison search on eniro.se and .no to see) I like the concept of open source plug ins - even tested putting this blog in the news ticker, worked like a charm. For my laptop the video is more than good enough, but for the 24'' screen it leaves a bit to be desired, especially for the faster moving clips like California street dance. But it is better to walk before you run - and with 130+ million Skypes out there, I think this baby could scale mighty quick and enable both HD and niches at the same time As for HTPC: I for one think the “end game” would be cabinet free solutions – ie. something you can stick in the corner inside whatever sort of storage furniture you have – and then just run a video cable and IR transmitter to the TV (or put another way: if the WinVista extender concept worked for all game consoles, including ps3 and wii – and for all media formats … then we have a winner)

Regarding Joost: it is incredible how much press the “official” branded version begot, especially here in Norway where it has been all but ignored since the people behind it are danes and swedes (much better coverage in Sweden, DI and others – do a comparison search on eniro.se and .no to see)
I like the concept of open source plug ins – even tested putting this blog in the news ticker, worked like a charm. For my laptop the video is more than good enough, but for the 24” screen it leaves a bit to be desired, especially for the faster moving clips like California street dance.

But it is better to walk before you run – and with 130+ million Skypes out there, I think this baby could scale mighty quick and enable both HD and niches at the same time

]]> By: Eirikso http://eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/comment-page-1/#comment-2526 Eirikso Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:02:21 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/#comment-2526 Joost is very interesting. I am a beta tester, and I really like some of the functionality. However, the video quality is not good enough (thery're streaming about 700 Kbit), and it would be interesting to see a Joost Set top box... Joost is very interesting. I am a beta tester, and I really like some of the functionality. However, the video quality is not good enough (thery’re streaming about 700 Kbit), and it would be interesting to see a Joost Set top box…

]]> By: Oyvind S http://eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/comment-page-1/#comment-2525 Oyvind S Thu, 18 Jan 2007 04:57:48 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/#comment-2525 Have a look at what Joost will offer: http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=LBFAGGZE25PSOQSNDLSCKHA?articleID=196901356 Have a look at what Joost will offer: http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=LBFAGGZE25PSOQSNDLSCKHA?articleID=196901356

]]> By: Movieland Station » Nuvio One - an IPTV set top box http://eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/comment-page-1/#comment-2524 Movieland Station » Nuvio One - an IPTV set top box Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:23:38 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/#comment-2524 [...] Found via. [...] [...] Found via. [...]

]]> By: Lasse Elden http://eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/comment-page-1/#comment-2523 Lasse Elden Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:36:33 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/#comment-2523 My question was more what is the MOST important specs. If the computer runs, handles the software and hardware, the most important specs is: Graphic-, tv- and soundcard right?!???? Other issues like cabinett, design etc. is whats keeping HTPC from getting into the livingroom. It's to expensive and most people will not build it themselves (like this site-owner has done). They just want to plug and play and have a nicelooking thing! I bet you could manage to sell many "spare-part"/cheap/old-fashion HTPC with great sound- graphiccard etc. to people that wantet to get IPTV, listen to music and watch movies and use internett - in their livingroom. The point I'm trying to make here is that its not that damn hard to get a system working. The problem is thats it's just not done. Due to high pricing of HTPC from the stores. If someone sold a cabinett and published a list of software - users could find the prices on the different pc-stores around and then they would realise that it's niot that complicated. With a nice cabinett and the right stuff it's something that everyone could handle (someone might need some tips or help, but if you own a screewdriver.... pice of cake!!!!). My question was more what is the MOST important specs.

If the computer runs, handles the software and hardware, the most important specs is: Graphic-, tv- and soundcard right?!????

Other issues like cabinett, design etc. is whats keeping HTPC from getting into the livingroom. It’s to expensive and most people will not build it themselves (like this site-owner has done). They just want to plug and play and have a nicelooking thing!

I bet you could manage to sell many “spare-part”/cheap/old-fashion HTPC with great sound- graphiccard etc. to people that wantet to get IPTV, listen to music and watch movies and use internett – in their livingroom.

The point I’m trying to make here is that its not that damn hard to get a system working. The problem is thats it’s just not done. Due to high pricing of HTPC from the stores. If someone sold a cabinett and published a list of software – users could find the prices on the different pc-stores around and then they would realise that it’s niot that complicated. With a nice cabinett and the right stuff it’s something that everyone could handle (someone might need some tips or help, but if you own a screewdriver…. pice of cake!!!!).

]]> By: Knut http://eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/comment-page-1/#comment-2522 Knut Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:03:18 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/#comment-2522 I am using an old Pentium 4 with 512MB RAM running <a href="http://gbpvr.com" rel="nofollow">GBPVR</a>. This system is responsive and good. I have tested a similar system with <a href="http://www.team-mediaportal.com" rel="nofollow">Team Media Portal</a> that was slow so I think this also depends on the software. I use a GBPVR350 TV Card with a dedicated TV out. I dont know how fast the system is using the display card. I am using an old Pentium 4 with 512MB RAM running GBPVR. This system is responsive and good. I have tested a similar system with Team Media Portal that was slow so I think this also depends on the software. I use a GBPVR350 TV Card with a dedicated TV out. I dont know how fast the system is using the display card.

]]> By: Eirikso http://eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/comment-page-1/#comment-2521 Eirikso Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:02:59 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/#comment-2521 <em>Lasse:</em> If you want a HTPC that can play music, show pictures and play standard definition TV you won't need much power. For the TV functionallity you need a TV card with hardware encoding. And a graphic card that can help on the MPEG2 decoding would also be nice. But standard MPEG2-decoding is not very hard, so a 2 GHz P4 or similar AMD would manage. You don't need very fast disks and you don't need huge amounts of RAM. So, yes - you can build a quite OK HTPC from some old pare parts... Lasse:
If you want a HTPC that can play music, show pictures and play standard definition TV you won’t need much power.

For the TV functionallity you need a TV card with hardware encoding. And a graphic card that can help on the MPEG2 decoding would also be nice. But standard MPEG2-decoding is not very hard, so a 2 GHz P4 or similar AMD would manage.

You don’t need very fast disks and you don’t need huge amounts of RAM. So, yes – you can build a quite OK HTPC from some old pare parts…

]]> By: Eirikso http://eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/comment-page-1/#comment-2520 Eirikso Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:58:48 +0000 http://www.eirikso.com/2007/01/16/peer-to-peer-set-top-box/#comment-2520 <em>Tomas:</em> Yes, the main problem with P2P streaming is upload bandwidth. It's perfect for streaming up to about 500 kbit/s but gets pretty useless above that. A company called <a href="http://octoshape.com" rel="nofollow">Octoshape</a> has a solution where they add "supernodes" in the network to help when too many people want to watch a stream that not enough people share. But you can't really benefit more that the average upload capacity. So, if you want to stream 2,5 M/bit you can only get down to about 2 M/bit pr. user for your own servers because the gain from people sharing your stream is limited by the asynchronous nature of ADSL. Tomas:
Yes, the main problem with P2P streaming is upload bandwidth. It’s perfect for streaming up to about 500 kbit/s but gets pretty useless above that. A company called Octoshape has a solution where they add “supernodes” in the network to help when too many people want to watch a stream that not enough people share.

But you can’t really benefit more that the average upload capacity. So, if you want to stream 2,5 M/bit you can only get down to about 2 M/bit pr. user for your own servers because the gain from people sharing your stream is limited by the asynchronous nature of ADSL.

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