Comments on: My current backup strategy http://eirikso.com/2008/08/13/my-current-backup-strategy/ The personal web site of Eirik Solheim Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:11:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: eirikso.com » My current image workflow http://eirikso.com/2008/08/13/my-current-backup-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-4056 eirikso.com » My current image workflow Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:08:24 +0000 http://eirikso.com/?p=740#comment-4056 [...] posted my current backup strategy a while ago. And after a quick chat with Rodrigo on Twitter I decided to post my image workflow as [...] [...] posted my current backup strategy a while ago. And after a quick chat with Rodrigo on Twitter I decided to post my image workflow as [...]

]]> By: Stilgherrian · Links for 26 August 2008 through 30 August 2008 http://eirikso.com/2008/08/13/my-current-backup-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-3999 Stilgherrian · Links for 26 August 2008 through 30 August 2008 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:40:08 +0000 http://eirikso.com/?p=740#comment-3999 [...] My current backup strategy | eirikso.com: A nice explanation of how one media producer stores his backup, with other suggestions in the comments. [...] [...] My current backup strategy | eirikso.com: A nice explanation of how one media producer stores his backup, with other suggestions in the comments. [...]

]]> By: eirikso http://eirikso.com/2008/08/13/my-current-backup-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-3936 eirikso Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:30:45 +0000 http://eirikso.com/?p=740#comment-3936 And how is the noise level from these disks? I need drives that are very quiet... And how is the noise level from these disks? I need drives that are very quiet…

]]> By: eirikso http://eirikso.com/2008/08/13/my-current-backup-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-3935 eirikso Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:50:53 +0000 http://eirikso.com/?p=740#comment-3935 Cool. That TrayFree + Trayless Technology looks neat! Cool. That TrayFree + Trayless Technology looks neat!

]]> By: mvcoile http://eirikso.com/2008/08/13/my-current-backup-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-3870 mvcoile Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:19:20 +0000 http://eirikso.com/?p=740#comment-3870 I'd like to ad another category: Archiving (+ back-up). Currently, being photographers, we shoot loads of images (each at least 23 MB) per day. These cannot be thrown away to minimize size, because clients might request another image. Even those that seem imperfect, may still be asker for a different composition or to fix another image/composition. We used to write all to DVD (x2/3) but due to ever growing file sizes, this has become unmaintainable. We've tried a RAID solution (Lacie 2.5TB), but they are expensive, no conclusive information on what to do when everything does go wrong and, seriously, the Lacie biggest made too much noise to comfortably work with. So this is what we've adopted now: a <a href="http://www.wiebetech.com/products/rtx.php" rel="nofollow">WiebeTech RTX-200H-QJ</a>. The beauty of this device is that it is 'Trayless'. Which mean that you can insert naked harddrives, as if it were a floppy (well, more a SyQuest, for those who remember). Currently we have 5 500GB drives (+ back-up drive) and 3 750GB drives (+back-up) to manage all our files. (of course, not all disks are filled, but getting close) Cheers, Maarten Van Coile I’d like to ad another category: Archiving (+ back-up).

Currently, being photographers, we shoot loads of images (each at least 23 MB) per day. These cannot be thrown away to minimize size, because clients might request another image. Even those that seem imperfect, may still be asker for a different composition or to fix another image/composition.

We used to write all to DVD (x2/3) but due to ever growing file sizes, this has become unmaintainable. We’ve tried a RAID solution (Lacie 2.5TB), but they are expensive, no conclusive information on what to do when everything does go wrong and, seriously, the Lacie biggest made too much noise to comfortably work with.

So this is what we’ve adopted now: a WiebeTech RTX-200H-QJ.
The beauty of this device is that it is ‘Trayless’. Which mean that you can insert naked harddrives, as if it were a floppy (well, more a SyQuest, for those who remember).

Currently we have 5 500GB drives (+ back-up drive) and 3 750GB drives (+back-up) to manage all our files. (of course, not all disks are filled, but getting close)

Cheers,
Maarten Van Coile

]]> By: Adam Prall http://eirikso.com/2008/08/13/my-current-backup-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-3785 Adam Prall Sat, 16 Aug 2008 04:06:26 +0000 http://eirikso.com/?p=740#comment-3785 Please don’t judge me by my website… it’s been under wraps for a while… hey guys—don’t you believe in write once read many?!? This is what I do, besides the normal backup procedure. Version everything. Use subVersion. Use Time Machine or use something dammit! RAIDs are great, but hardware expenses are high—reserve your RAIDs for video, use physical media for backup, and make it *incremental*—this is how you deal with 40Tb backups!! Mahalo, Adam. Please don’t judge me by my website… it’s been under wraps for a while… hey guys—don’t you believe in write once read many?!? This is what I do, besides the normal backup procedure. Version everything. Use subVersion. Use Time Machine or use something dammit! RAIDs are great, but hardware expenses are high—reserve your RAIDs for video, use physical media for backup, and make it *incremental*—this is how you deal with 40Tb backups!! Mahalo, Adam.

]]> By: kms http://eirikso.com/2008/08/13/my-current-backup-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-3779 kms Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:43:28 +0000 http://eirikso.com/?p=740#comment-3779 For photos, I like to burn DVDs. They are cheap and easy to stash away at secure places. I put the last ~4GB of photos on them which usually provides some redundancy over multiple discs. Who knows about long-term integrity, though. For photos, I like to burn DVDs. They are cheap and easy to stash away at secure places. I put the last ~4GB of photos on them which usually provides some redundancy over multiple discs. Who knows about long-term integrity, though.

]]> By: j http://eirikso.com/2008/08/13/my-current-backup-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-3787 j Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:06:02 +0000 http://eirikso.com/?p=740#comment-3787 @Martin You can buy a cheap server at ebay or finn, put in a sata pci card and add disks. You don't need a fast server at all. I used a laptop with 1GHz cpu, 512MB ram and external disks running FreeBSD for backup a year ago and had no problem with speed.I doubt you find a cheaper off site solution. My dad is running Mozy in addition to my rsnapshot script. He has 250 000files and a total of 40GB. In the log I found the two last backup runs. One backed up 630MB in 7hours and on backed up 6MB in 1,5hour. It's on a slow Telenor adsl line, but i don't think Telenor is the one to blame. I don't have access to my rsnapshot logs right now so I can't compare them. @Martin
You can buy a cheap server at ebay or finn, put in a sata pci card and add disks. You don’t need a fast server at all. I used a laptop with 1GHz cpu, 512MB ram and external disks running FreeBSD for backup a year ago and had no problem with speed.I doubt you find a cheaper off site solution.

My dad is running Mozy in addition to my rsnapshot script. He has 250 000files and a total of 40GB. In the log I found the two last backup runs. One backed up 630MB in 7hours and on backed up 6MB in 1,5hour. It’s on a slow Telenor adsl line, but i don’t think Telenor is the one to blame. I don’t have access to my rsnapshot logs right now so I can’t compare them.

]]> By: Martin Bekkelund http://eirikso.com/2008/08/13/my-current-backup-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-3778 Martin Bekkelund Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:45:31 +0000 http://eirikso.com/?p=740#comment-3778 Very true indeed, Eirik. I'll do some further research. Thanks for the information! :-) Very true indeed, Eirik. I’ll do some further research.

Thanks for the information! :-)

]]> By: eirikso http://eirikso.com/2008/08/13/my-current-backup-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-3786 eirikso Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:14:11 +0000 http://eirikso.com/?p=740#comment-3786 I've only tested Mozy on a basic level. Looked very good. I don't know anything about reliability or speed on their servers. JungleDisk let you back up to Amazon's servers in Europe. Giving better speed. But Amazon will end up pretty expensive with 2,5 TB. You could contact @noplay on Twitter. I think he's currently using Mozy. I know that some of the "unlimited" services are not completely unlimited. Something that sometimes is noted in small print somewhere... Mozy has a pro service as well, and I don't know if they will consiter 2,5 TB a "small office" or a "home" :-) You could contact them through mail. That's always a good idea before buying a service. If they don't answer they're probably not good at support either... I’ve only tested Mozy on a basic level. Looked very good. I don’t know anything about reliability or speed on their servers. JungleDisk let you back up to Amazon’s servers in Europe. Giving better speed. But Amazon will end up pretty expensive with 2,5 TB.

You could contact @noplay on Twitter. I think he’s currently using Mozy.

I know that some of the “unlimited” services are not completely unlimited. Something that sometimes is noted in small print somewhere… Mozy has a pro service as well, and I don’t know if they will consiter 2,5 TB a “small office” or a “home” :-)

You could contact them through mail. That’s always a good idea before buying a service. If they don’t answer they’re probably not good at support either…

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